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I think what we create is an essence in 200 megs. In another 500 megs we could make an local repository for smart, and the developer has possibility to install anything what we have added there. It could be also an static linked unique browser like opera or midori too... without network connection, we could have an fully supported build environment packed into rpm's... say that isn't a good idea....
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Well I just installed Midori 0.1.8 on Archlinux, and it seems to be working pretty well, even with Flash. It also has some nice features that remind me of both Firefox and Opera without being bloated with all the other bells and whistles.
I also downloaded and installed Epiphany.
I don't know how it compares as far as being "lightweight" or "minimal dependencies". But it's a nice "basic" browser that's working well also. It appears to be even more "basic" than Midori, but definitely a step above Dillo.
So I think I'll keep it in my collection of browsers that are "lighter" than Firefox or Opera.
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May I suggest... to use a ballot screen ? :-D
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Just as a thought, how about taking a look at the inventory of a couple of base, modular distros that come in around 200 MB, see what they use, and use them as yardsticks for comparison. We need not duplicate them or be identical to them, but they might give us some ideas about what we can fit in around 200 MB. Two distros in that range are SLAX (just released a 6.1.2 release) and antiX BASE (full is double that size, but BASE is just over 200 MB).
Again, we need not use what either of these distros use, but they may give us some ideas by checking their software inventories.
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2009, 09:38:29 AM » |
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in my experience with all the browsers I have seen thus far, I would have to lean my hat toward midori... I can't guarantee it being the most lightweight of all, but being very lightweight and having features similar to firefox AND opera PLUS being able to support flash 10 definitely catches my eye. My vote continues to point in that direction until I try a couple of other browsers. I really liked Kasehakaze as well, but it crashed on my too much, so until it is more stable, it goes to the back of the line...
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Kazehakase hasn't been developed for some time. I check in on it occasionally, and I don't think it's worth packaging at this point.
By the way, I'm helping some people who want to start developing tkhtml/hv3 again. I've set up a SourceForge site for them but haven't imported the code yet.
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2009, 09:25:11 PM » |
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So it sounds like it'll come down to the overall size of the browser, including dependencies.
It may just end up staying with lynx. The whole point is just to bootstrap a developer up into a functioning system and then they could download anything else that's needed.
Even using a LiveCD it's not too painful to download another browser.
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2009, 09:27:26 PM » |
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how many of the browsers that were mentioned do we even have in the repos?
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2009, 09:49:07 PM » |
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how many of the browsers that were mentioned do we even have in the repos?
No more than a couple. Some others have already been noted in the package request feed. The rest will get themselves added eventually. I may do that myself as a break from other tasks. |
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« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2009, 11:43:19 AM » |
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